the leak appears to be an intentional desire to stop the upcoming attack on iran by israel-usa... it's kind of like a conflict within the leadership of the usa over the degree of servitude towards israel on the part of the usa... that is my speculation on that..
an eye for an eye only leads to more blindness.. that is essentially where we are here.. these are not solutions... taking out others leaders doesn't really work in the final analysis as i see it... i am going to answer robert lindsay now..
no easy solutions, especially when either party is not interested in solutions and instead have a solution that doesn't include the other... that seems to be the root problem for israel at this point in time.. it is a problem for palestine too.. i view the concept of a homeland for the jews as defined by present day israel as an experiment and one that hasn't worked.. ordinarily when an experiment doesn't work, the experiment ends, although there will be consequences of it ending, ultimately i think that is for the better.. colonialism worked up to a point a few hundred years ago, but taking a concept that has outlived its attractiveness to the ruling classes is not all that easy either..
the choice is do we continue on the planet as a species, or are we destined to destroy the planet and humankind on the way to oblivion?? if you read the book 'humankind' you might come away with a sense that while the glass can appear half empty or half full, there is more reward in seeing it half full... short of reading the book, this is the best i can do... what is happening in israel at this point is not sustainable... the parallels with apartheid south africa are very apparent here... nelson mandela was a terrorist until apartheid SA ended.. after it ended, he won the nobel peace prize... notice how things change given time??
what is your proposal for a solution here?? i am curious!
I'm anti-Zionist. But I'm a 2 stater at the moment, though even that is unfeasible. One state would be best but that appears out of reach. I absolutely oppose all Palestinian nationalist solutions that invariably involve either murdering lots of Jews or stealing all their land, or the most popular of all, forcing them all out at gunpoint.
Yeah I'm serious this is what almost all Palestinians on the street support. They all hate the 2 state solution. A few support a 1 state solution. A few call for killing all the Jews (not that many). By far the most popular Palestinian solution to this mess is to conquer Israel by military force and then force the Jews to leave at gunpoint. I'm serious. This is what almost every last one of them supports.
And if you don't go along they blast the fuck out of you, ban you from their forums, and oh yeah, call you a Jew and a Zionist. Also they are way too religious and in general I think they hate Westerners and they also seem to hate non-Muslims. I never thought about Muslims hating non-Muslims until I started spending some time around them.
Really the Palestinians are just as big of shitwads as the Israelis.s
Israelis: All of this land is ours and none of it is yours!
Palestinians: All of this land is ours and none of it is yours!
Two groups of fanatical shitwads with zero sum game solutions going at it. As long as their doing this zero sum game thing, this will go on forever.
So though I support the Palestinians, part of me says fuck both of them and let them all kill each other.
okay! thanks for your interpretation of what is happening here... i do find it interesting that in this latest conflict - oct 7, 2023 to today - and i am rough guessing here - 1200 israelis have died, while 45000 palestinians have died... the numbers, if they are any reflection of who is doing what appear to show a very lopsided situation that suggests something different then how you portray it here..
maybe i read you wrong robert, but it sounded like one group ( the palestinians) was portrayed as much worse then the other... if i read you wrong, i am happy to acknowledge that..
Oh no. I absolutely despise Israel. Go read some of my posts and you will see that. I hate it slmost worse than anyone out there. This has led to me going to pro-Palestinian rallies and groups on the Net, both of which have been catastrophic.
They made up a lie about me and tried to get me arrested at a rally. Also it was full of Muslims and they wouldnāt really talk to you if you werenāt one of them.
Eye-opening. Someone said I was asking them questions and people said anyone doing that is an agitator or infiltrator or whatever.
I get thrown out of all of their groups because I criticize Hamas and oppose attacks on Israeli civilians in 1948 Israel.
Well you canāt say that in those groups because a lot of them support out and out terrorism, I also take them to task over their support for the insane Khazarian Theory, which is nonsense. I tell them the truth instead which makes them furious.
I think I said Jesus and Moses were considered prophets in the Quran and they accused me of blaspheming the prophets or some such.
They are extremely emotional and incredibly fanatical people who hate science snd truth and prefer to believe bullshit snd lies. They attack snd best the fuck out of their own Western supporters, which to me is sheer madness.
They have no political sense at all because itās all emotion and no reason. They are way too religious and incredibly closedminded.
Sure I hate Israel and I still support these fuckeads despite all theyāve done to me but I would not advise associating with or even talking to Arabs.
This is not just Palestinians but also applies to Jordanians, Lebanese, and Egyptians at the very least. I had good experiences with Yemenis here in the states though.
I think they hate Westerners and anything having to do either with the West and Iām starting to suspect that they hate non-Muslims too. This was new to me. I never knew these people had such prejudices.
Great article š
Thank you.
the leak appears to be an intentional desire to stop the upcoming attack on iran by israel-usa... it's kind of like a conflict within the leadership of the usa over the degree of servitude towards israel on the part of the usa... that is my speculation on that..
an eye for an eye only leads to more blindness.. that is essentially where we are here.. these are not solutions... taking out others leaders doesn't really work in the final analysis as i see it... i am going to answer robert lindsay now..
What is your proposal for a solution to this problem?
no easy solutions, especially when either party is not interested in solutions and instead have a solution that doesn't include the other... that seems to be the root problem for israel at this point in time.. it is a problem for palestine too.. i view the concept of a homeland for the jews as defined by present day israel as an experiment and one that hasn't worked.. ordinarily when an experiment doesn't work, the experiment ends, although there will be consequences of it ending, ultimately i think that is for the better.. colonialism worked up to a point a few hundred years ago, but taking a concept that has outlived its attractiveness to the ruling classes is not all that easy either..
the choice is do we continue on the planet as a species, or are we destined to destroy the planet and humankind on the way to oblivion?? if you read the book 'humankind' you might come away with a sense that while the glass can appear half empty or half full, there is more reward in seeing it half full... short of reading the book, this is the best i can do... what is happening in israel at this point is not sustainable... the parallels with apartheid south africa are very apparent here... nelson mandela was a terrorist until apartheid SA ended.. after it ended, he won the nobel peace prize... notice how things change given time??
what is your proposal for a solution here?? i am curious!
I'm anti-Zionist. But I'm a 2 stater at the moment, though even that is unfeasible. One state would be best but that appears out of reach. I absolutely oppose all Palestinian nationalist solutions that invariably involve either murdering lots of Jews or stealing all their land, or the most popular of all, forcing them all out at gunpoint.
Yeah I'm serious this is what almost all Palestinians on the street support. They all hate the 2 state solution. A few support a 1 state solution. A few call for killing all the Jews (not that many). By far the most popular Palestinian solution to this mess is to conquer Israel by military force and then force the Jews to leave at gunpoint. I'm serious. This is what almost every last one of them supports.
And if you don't go along they blast the fuck out of you, ban you from their forums, and oh yeah, call you a Jew and a Zionist. Also they are way too religious and in general I think they hate Westerners and they also seem to hate non-Muslims. I never thought about Muslims hating non-Muslims until I started spending some time around them.
Really the Palestinians are just as big of shitwads as the Israelis.s
Israelis: All of this land is ours and none of it is yours!
Palestinians: All of this land is ours and none of it is yours!
Two groups of fanatical shitwads with zero sum game solutions going at it. As long as their doing this zero sum game thing, this will go on forever.
So though I support the Palestinians, part of me says fuck both of them and let them all kill each other.
okay! thanks for your interpretation of what is happening here... i do find it interesting that in this latest conflict - oct 7, 2023 to today - and i am rough guessing here - 1200 israelis have died, while 45000 palestinians have died... the numbers, if they are any reflection of who is doing what appear to show a very lopsided situation that suggests something different then how you portray it here..
How is that different from what I portrayed? Not following here.
1,500 Israelis have been killed, minimum. Those figures are too low because they lie about both their fatalities and wounded.
maybe i read you wrong robert, but it sounded like one group ( the palestinians) was portrayed as much worse then the other... if i read you wrong, i am happy to acknowledge that..
Oh no. I absolutely despise Israel. Go read some of my posts and you will see that. I hate it slmost worse than anyone out there. This has led to me going to pro-Palestinian rallies and groups on the Net, both of which have been catastrophic.
They made up a lie about me and tried to get me arrested at a rally. Also it was full of Muslims and they wouldnāt really talk to you if you werenāt one of them.
Eye-opening. Someone said I was asking them questions and people said anyone doing that is an agitator or infiltrator or whatever.
I get thrown out of all of their groups because I criticize Hamas and oppose attacks on Israeli civilians in 1948 Israel.
Well you canāt say that in those groups because a lot of them support out and out terrorism, I also take them to task over their support for the insane Khazarian Theory, which is nonsense. I tell them the truth instead which makes them furious.
I think I said Jesus and Moses were considered prophets in the Quran and they accused me of blaspheming the prophets or some such.
They are extremely emotional and incredibly fanatical people who hate science snd truth and prefer to believe bullshit snd lies. They attack snd best the fuck out of their own Western supporters, which to me is sheer madness.
They have no political sense at all because itās all emotion and no reason. They are way too religious and incredibly closedminded.
Sure I hate Israel and I still support these fuckeads despite all theyāve done to me but I would not advise associating with or even talking to Arabs.
This is not just Palestinians but also applies to Jordanians, Lebanese, and Egyptians at the very least. I had good experiences with Yemenis here in the states though.
I think they hate Westerners and anything having to do either with the West and Iām starting to suspect that they hate non-Muslims too. This was new to me. I never knew these people had such prejudices.