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John Kirsch's avatar

War is the ultimate expression of the state.

No expense is spared in manufacturing weapons.

Meanwhile people pile up credit card debt and bridges collapse.

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ann watson's avatar

yeah. get rid of the politicians and save some money and turn inwards and fix stuff

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John Kirsch's avatar

America First, for real, not fake like Trump.

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ann watson's avatar

yeah - I don't care which country goes first - getting rid of government - I mean there will still be ministries and taxes but there should be think tanks working on the designs of a proper structure for society. I suppose Libertarians sort of do that but not enough and they are so fixated on the financial part - there's three parts -

Rights - Economy - Culture

(culture includes agriculture - the healing arts - schools - religion etc )

anyway - until this situation of oligarchy running the show changes, nothing will change.

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ann watson's avatar

what an excellent post. But its not just ' today ' its been this way since the kings and serfs...we have to change it. No more politicians. Government agencies can be run by the people the agency represents...so the Ministry of Education is run by teachers - Ministry of Health run by doctors and nurses...maybe even rotating back into teaching after a few years in the ministry. And no bribes - no ' donors ' but Mandatory Gifting from big corporations - not too big though - no crossover from one division of society to the other. Finance and government and culture. finance = fraternity /

government = rights / culture = freedom

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Perseus's avatar

Their war cries are evident in their absurd demands of 5% of GNP for “defense”.

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Douglas Jack's avatar

BECOMEING 'ONKWEHONWE' / ANISHISNABE (Iroquois & Algonquian meaning 'REAL-PEOPLE' ONCE AGAIN. Human organization into loving communities from the bottom-up

So few are aware of all humanity's worldwide many 10s of 1000s of years old 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating' heritage of peace & prosperity embodied in THE-CIRCLE-of-LIFE. The many 10s of 1000s of years old Great-good-way-of-kindness aka Great-law-of-peace aka Constitution is based in individual & collective culturing of loving, intimate, intergenerational, female-male, interdisciplinary, critical-mass, economies of scale in the ~100 person Multihome-Dwelling-Complex (eg. Longhouse-apartment, Pueblo-townhouse & Kanata-village) cultural peace of caring & sharing with each other in Circular 'Economy' (Gk 'oikos' = 'home' + 'namein' = 'care-&-nurture'). https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy/1-extending-our-welcome-participatory-multihome-cohousing

On Turtle-Island (N. America) the Haudenosaunee (Iroquois 'People-of-the-extended-rafters' aka 'Welcome' call this the "Kaianere'kowa". In Central America the Maya refer to Kindness as 'In Lakesh' (I am another you. You are another me). We still all can return to the loving intimate, intergenerational, female-male, interdisciplinary, critical-mass, economies-of-scale family, extended-family & community sovereignty. In the Amazon, Aymara, Jamamadi, Apurina nations refer to Kindness as Maloka = 'Longhouse', Indigenous Celtic-Slavic Europe refer to the 'System of 100s' for their longhouse & other housing economies. In southern Africa, Nguni people refer to 'Ubuntu' meaning 'Human Kindness'. Eastern Europe Serbs & Croatians refer to 'Zadruga' meaning 'economy of friends', India as 'Swadeshi' (Hindi ‘indigenous’ aka ‘self-sufficiency’), China's character for 'money' refers to the ancient indigenous 'Bei' or 'Cowrie Shell', Korea as 'Chaebol' & Japan as 'Keiretsu' referring to 'Family Economy'. All these indigenous practices carry the same 3 indigenous-Cultural-Economy practices as below. example: Peace is established culturally from the person, friends, family, extended-family, Multihome, village, city, region, nation with ~110 nations across Turtle-Island (N. America) organized into ~23 Confederacies, into Continental & Hemispheric Councils. One introduction to all our ancient ways is called the Indigenous Circle-of-Life, somewhat related to the Medicine-Wheel in simplifying an inter-disciplinary set of Indigenous factors needed for all of us to become whole again. https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/3-indigenous-circle-of-life

RECOGNIZING FAKE 'DEMOCRACY' (Greek 'Power-of-the-people') & fake 'POLITICS' (Latin 'poly' = 'many' + 'tics' = 'workings-of') DESIGNED TO BE CAPTURED. Politics is a very expensive game of: staff, offices, equipment, networking & advertising, worth in the billions $ per US Senator elected. When people are drawn to Government-Public-Service as Politicians, most are concerned with delivering Legislation 'Content' for their communities, but unaware of the huge prohibitive 'Process' costs involved. Debt builds, especially for the young politicians of prime sexuality, away as a Representative (100s of Millions of $ costs) from the moderation of family & community in Capitols, ripe for compromise-capture, such as Mossad's Jeffrey Epstein's videoed-sexual-encounter-blackmail. The politician is susceptible to family debt pressures at child-rearing age & so finds him or herself $$ captured. Centralized top-down 'Government' is even a more expensive game than 'politics', both not being inherent Revenue producers of humane value to populations except for inappropriately scaled services which don't respectfully deliver meaningful value to each unique individual.

RELATIONAL ECONOMY Reuniting with family, friends & community in proximity. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy

FAKE BUREAUCRACY (French 'bureau' = 'office') "Permit me to issue the currency of a nation & I care not who makes its laws" attributed to Mayer Amschel Rothschild 1744 to 1812. "It’s difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it", attributed to Upton Sinclair.

All humanity's worldwide 'indigenous' (Latin 'self-generating') ancestors in-such-as Turtle-Island (Canada & USA)'s ~110 First-nations, joined in ~25 Confederacies this continent, cultivated ECONOMIC-DEMOCRACY. People at the base level of the ~100 (50-150) person Multihome-Dwelling-Complex (eg. Longhouse-apartment, Pueblo-townhouse & Kanata-village) were joined together in the ~100 person intimate, intergenerational, female-male, interdisciplinary, critical-mass, economies-of-scale in the collective 'Domestic' (mostly women) prime essential goods & services 'economy' (Gk 'oikos' = 'home' + 'namein' = 'care-&-nurture'), Industrial & Commerce (mostly men) subsets, meant to support the prime domestic economy. Each specialty experience & mentored knowledge acquired discipline were joined in the life or career long progressive ownership in specialized Production-Society-Guilds with time-based equivalency-accounting on the String-shell Value System (eg. Wampum on Turtle-Island, Quipu in S. America & Cowrie in indigenous Celtic-Slavic Europe, Asia, Africa, Australia & all islands) according merit to each contributor. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy/8-economic-democracy

EXOGENOUS TOP-DOWN PARASITES This worldwide indigenous Economic 'democracy' (Gk 'power-of-the-people') was progressively destroyed by Oligarch-directed colonial invasion & genocide on every continent, all the way back to the war destruction & desertification of Babylon (5000 BC) & the 'Phoenician-Empire' (4000 to 0 BC 'Kingdom-of-Israel + City-states of Tyr, Sidon, Byblos & Beirut') created the Sahara Desert & destroyed the international graphic character pictorial Hieroglyphic language used across 100s of languages of nations bordering the Mediterranean & Black Seas.

Phoenician Empire establishes Ashkenaz & Khazarian Empires centered in Ukraine, still immersed in the atrocity of genocide festering the killing of over one million Ukrainian mostly young men part of a plan for resettlement insurance with the Armageddon expected destruction of Israel described here by Ukrainian Jewish Igor Berkut: Ukrainian Billionaire: Israel ("Palestine is 60% desert & 40% rocks") 2.0: move to ‘New Jerusalem’ NJ in south-central Ukraine, 174 settlers from Haifa sail to Odessa to establish NJ., business Dnepropetrovsk will be capital of New Rossolimo cultural capital Odessa, to be managed by 12 revealed apostles Council + 1 hidden apostle Worldwide & Russian Billionaires & Trillionaires eg Avigdor Lieberman, Benjamin Netanyahu, Rothschild approve the “NJ Project”, Security by Yakov Cadmium, Minister Internal Affairs Natan Sharansky, Foreign Affairs Avigdor Eskin, Culture Vladimir Solovyov, Speaker Evgen y Satanovsky, Legal Affairs Tatyana Montyan, Finance Pnsh Ombre Narcos, Jewish Rabbinate (Ashkenazi person) interview 2019(?) post by Gordana Stetin forward by Frances Leader Pt1 posted 2023 56m51s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0DktrE7aw

Pt 2 What in the world is going on with the countries? Igor Berkut https://youtu.be/3JBigBpbIYA

Top-down advantaged Oligarchs aren’t going to change, so its a matter of all of us from the bottom up organizing our own talents, goods, services, resources & dreams from the bottom-up. DO-WE-KNOW-WHO-WE-ARE-? is a project for a web-based Community-Economy software to Catalogue Multihome individual & business talents, goods, services, resources & dreams, Map relationships for collaboration, Account for local buying, selling & investment, Communicate for agreements & conflict resolution. 70% of people live in the Multihome-Dwelling-Complex today. 20% of Multihome-dwellers are extended-families living intentionally in proximity for social & economic collaboration, contributing 2 trillion $/year of the most individually appropriate goods, services, sharing & caring/year on Turtle-Island. (Intimate people & relationships at the center) Http://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/9-do-we-know-who-we-are web-based Community-Circular-Economy software:

A) CATALOGUE intake form for individual & business Talents, Goods, Services, Resources & Dreams. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/7-membership

B) MAP local proximal collaborative relations for complementary economic concertation. Baseline mapping of 105 Mohawk, Wendat & Algonquian Placenames in the Tiohtiake (greater Montreal archipelago) region https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/a-home/5-tiohtiake-mohawk-placenames

C) ACCOUNT for collective contributions, buying, selling & co-investment. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/c-relational-economy

D) COMMUNICATE such as formally through COUNCIL PROCESS for creating Constructive Agreements & for Conflict Resolution. Https://sites.google.com/site/indigenecommunity/d-participatory-structure/1-both-sides-now-equal-time-recorded-dialogues

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Johannes S. Herbst's avatar

War is a means of politics to reach certain goals. The way ist to destroy miltary (often civilians), material, sources and economy up to the point that the enemy ist forced to do the will of his opponent.

The biggest problem is that in a state of war humans are allowed to kill and maim others. As this is unnatural for zivilicised humans, you cannot switch the killing as a moral thing on and off. So warrying parties live in a state of congnitve dissonance - and the soldiers often till the end of their live.

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